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New Information Shows Evan Rachel Wood Cheated on Marilyn Manson and Had an Abortion as a Result While They Were Engaged - What This Tells Us in Light of the Allegations Against Manson
In the latest exclusive interview by Colonel Kurtz, she talked with Manzin, a friend of Marilyn Manson who shared with us some very interesting and relevant stories of times he spent not only with Marilyn Manson, but also with Evan Rachel Wood. Some of these stories are directly tied to some of the things I have already shared, which add some fascinating details, and these I would like to concentrate on with this post, saving some of the rest for for future posts. Nonetheless, I encourage everyone to listen to the entire interview for more context (see video below) .
Manson and Evan's Sex Life, Evan Cheats on Manson
At around the 21 minute mark of the video interview, Manzin tells a story of the time Manson contacted him from an apartment in Tribeca in New York City, in June of 2010, where he was visiting Evan who was filming Mildred Pierce, and he asked him to drive them to a hotel, because it was hot and their air conditioning was broken. Arriving at the hotel, at around dinner time they began to drink some absinthe and listen to music. They ordered room service, and after eating their steaks, Manson asked Evan if she had any cocaine on her. After indicating that she didn't, she called someone she knew who came and provided them with cocaine. They were then joined by a mutual friend, Nick Kushner, and they stayed up all night and consumed the cocaine. When the sun came up in the morning, Manson indicated that he had to leave in a few hours and wanted to spend some quality time with Evan before his departure. It appears Nick had left by this time, so Manson gave Manzin some money and Evan gave him her iPod to go to the bar and hang out until he called for him.
After some time, Manson contacted Manzin to come back up to the room, and they just hung out for a short while longer. At one point Manson went to the bathroom to get ready to leave, and he and Evan were alone in the bedroom. It was at this time that he decided to ask her a personal question, to satisfy his curiosity, fueled at the same time by an all night binge of drugs and alcohol. He asked Evan what Manson was like in bed, if he was crazy and like a whirlwind as he portrays himself with his image. In the interview, Manzin says her response was as follows, accompanied with laughter: "Honestly, no. A lot of people would think that. Honestly, he's very romantic, he's very sweet, we cuddle a lot, we kiss a lot. It's very vanilla. I hope that's not disappointing." He says he was a little disappointed, hoping for something grittier, but at the same time he said it reflects how they were in public around other people, which he thought was cute and sweet.
After this, Manzin also reveals a conversation he initially had with Manson before Evan joined them at the apartment to go to the hotel. During this conversation, he asked Manson what he was doing in New York. Manson replied, in a rather sad tone, that he was here to give Evan support. When Manzin asked if everything was alright with her, Manson revealed to him that she had an abortion. Shocked by this, he was further shocked when he found out that the child was not Manson's. Manson never told him whose child it was, but he said that he wanted him to know and that it was a tough time for her.
Here is what we learn with these astounding revelations:
1. This and other stories shared by Manzin reveal Evan was very much a cocaine user, even though in her latest accusations against Manson she presents herself as naive and talks about being unaware of his drug habits.
2. Manson and Evan allowed Manzin to spend a significant time with them, though Manson was in New York for a limited time, and Manson even allowed Manzin to be alone with Evan where they had a secret conversation, showing that Manson did not isolate Evan from others, nor exhibit control over her, even with other men talking to her privately.
3. Evan was very open about her sex life with Manson, sounding like she was not uncomfortable at all. She does not hint at being disappointed at all in her love life, nor does she seem to exaggerate, but gives a response that she knew would disappoint Manzin, indicating her honesty. There are no "tell" signs of abuse from the response, such as her feeling hesitant or afraid to talk about it, but it reflects many other statements from other past relationships of Manson, with him being sweet and cuddly and more romantic rather than kinky in any way.
4. We find out Evan cheated on Manson while they were engaged, which resulted in a pregnancy and a subsequent abortion. Manson came to New York from California to support her during this time, and when telling Manzin about it he seemed more sad and not angry, and expressed the need to show her support at this time.
5. This is not the first time I have heard Evan had an abortion with another man's baby while they were engaged. There was a rumor circulating about this, but I have no idea where I read it. I always dismissed it as a rumor and conspiracy theory without proof, but now that I know Manzin heard it from Manson himself it proves to me that this is true. I see no reason why he would lie about it.
These revelations by Manzin also tie in to some of the things I have written about:
1. These revelations all take place within the time period and setting of my article titled "What Really Happened When Marilyn Manson Visited Evan Rachel Wood on the Set of HBO's 'Mildred Pierce'". In other words, all this information supplements what I wrote. Here are some observations I wanted to share:
A). Manzin says he met with Manson and Evan in New York in June of 2010, while I wrote about Manson's visit on May 28th. It appeared to me that Manson stayed no longer than a day or two in New York, but if it was indeed June, then it could be that Manson stayed more than two days, possibly three or four, unless this was an entirely different visit. The photos in my article show Nick Kushner and Guy Pearce talking with Manson and Evan in the evening, so it certainly was not May 28th that Manzin visited.
B). The fact that Manson was in an apartment with Evan indicates, as I speculated, that they did not stay in the trailer on set, as the producer of the show claimed.
C). Manson was drinking absinthe, not vodka as the producer of the show claimed.
D). Evan has repeatedly described being in a "very dark place" while filming Mildred Pierce. Early on she ascribed this to portraying a very dark character in the most challenging role in her career, and it affected her mentally. We are also informed that Manson and Evan broke up during the filming, which also put her in a difficult emotional place. Later, Evan will claim that it was exclusively because Manson was abusing her. Now we can add the fact that she was found to be pregnant with another man's child that she aborted while filming as additional reasons for her to be in a "very dark place".
E). All indications show that Manson was trying to make Evan feel comfortable (moving her to an air conditioned hotel room) and have some fun (doing cocaine with friends) during her difficult moment, and there is no anger or punishment displayed whatsoever.
F). In my article I show that it seems Manson and Evan broke off their engagement in June of 2010, or at least the process began. It was while she was filming on Long Island for Mildred Pierce. It has always been a mystery as to why they broke up. The fact that Evan cheated on Manson and had an abortion seems to be a primary reason, either indicating Evan no longer wanted to be with him, or that Manson didn't want to deal with the fact that Evan cheated on him and maybe had some resentment, or at least couldn't trust her.
G). Could this be the reason why Evan spoke so positively about Manson till her radicalization in 2016? Was it because she felt responsible for the breakup? Maybe she felt guilty she hurt him? Could it also be the reason Manson never spoke about Evan, and when he did in 2015 it was with regret and negativity?
H). In August of 2019 Evan sent the following tweet:
Manson and Evan's Sex Life, Evan Cheats on Manson
At around the 21 minute mark of the video interview, Manzin tells a story of the time Manson contacted him from an apartment in Tribeca in New York City, in June of 2010, where he was visiting Evan who was filming Mildred Pierce, and he asked him to drive them to a hotel, because it was hot and their air conditioning was broken. Arriving at the hotel, at around dinner time they began to drink some absinthe and listen to music. They ordered room service, and after eating their steaks, Manson asked Evan if she had any cocaine on her. After indicating that she didn't, she called someone she knew who came and provided them with cocaine. They were then joined by a mutual friend, Nick Kushner, and they stayed up all night and consumed the cocaine. When the sun came up in the morning, Manson indicated that he had to leave in a few hours and wanted to spend some quality time with Evan before his departure. It appears Nick had left by this time, so Manson gave Manzin some money and Evan gave him her iPod to go to the bar and hang out until he called for him.
After some time, Manson contacted Manzin to come back up to the room, and they just hung out for a short while longer. At one point Manson went to the bathroom to get ready to leave, and he and Evan were alone in the bedroom. It was at this time that he decided to ask her a personal question, to satisfy his curiosity, fueled at the same time by an all night binge of drugs and alcohol. He asked Evan what Manson was like in bed, if he was crazy and like a whirlwind as he portrays himself with his image. In the interview, Manzin says her response was as follows, accompanied with laughter: "Honestly, no. A lot of people would think that. Honestly, he's very romantic, he's very sweet, we cuddle a lot, we kiss a lot. It's very vanilla. I hope that's not disappointing." He says he was a little disappointed, hoping for something grittier, but at the same time he said it reflects how they were in public around other people, which he thought was cute and sweet.
After this, Manzin also reveals a conversation he initially had with Manson before Evan joined them at the apartment to go to the hotel. During this conversation, he asked Manson what he was doing in New York. Manson replied, in a rather sad tone, that he was here to give Evan support. When Manzin asked if everything was alright with her, Manson revealed to him that she had an abortion. Shocked by this, he was further shocked when he found out that the child was not Manson's. Manson never told him whose child it was, but he said that he wanted him to know and that it was a tough time for her.
Here is what we learn with these astounding revelations:
1. This and other stories shared by Manzin reveal Evan was very much a cocaine user, even though in her latest accusations against Manson she presents herself as naive and talks about being unaware of his drug habits.
2. Manson and Evan allowed Manzin to spend a significant time with them, though Manson was in New York for a limited time, and Manson even allowed Manzin to be alone with Evan where they had a secret conversation, showing that Manson did not isolate Evan from others, nor exhibit control over her, even with other men talking to her privately.
3. Evan was very open about her sex life with Manson, sounding like she was not uncomfortable at all. She does not hint at being disappointed at all in her love life, nor does she seem to exaggerate, but gives a response that she knew would disappoint Manzin, indicating her honesty. There are no "tell" signs of abuse from the response, such as her feeling hesitant or afraid to talk about it, but it reflects many other statements from other past relationships of Manson, with him being sweet and cuddly and more romantic rather than kinky in any way.
4. We find out Evan cheated on Manson while they were engaged, which resulted in a pregnancy and a subsequent abortion. Manson came to New York from California to support her during this time, and when telling Manzin about it he seemed more sad and not angry, and expressed the need to show her support at this time.
5. This is not the first time I have heard Evan had an abortion with another man's baby while they were engaged. There was a rumor circulating about this, but I have no idea where I read it. I always dismissed it as a rumor and conspiracy theory without proof, but now that I know Manzin heard it from Manson himself it proves to me that this is true. I see no reason why he would lie about it.
These revelations by Manzin also tie in to some of the things I have written about:
1. These revelations all take place within the time period and setting of my article titled "What Really Happened When Marilyn Manson Visited Evan Rachel Wood on the Set of HBO's 'Mildred Pierce'". In other words, all this information supplements what I wrote. Here are some observations I wanted to share:
A). Manzin says he met with Manson and Evan in New York in June of 2010, while I wrote about Manson's visit on May 28th. It appeared to me that Manson stayed no longer than a day or two in New York, but if it was indeed June, then it could be that Manson stayed more than two days, possibly three or four, unless this was an entirely different visit. The photos in my article show Nick Kushner and Guy Pearce talking with Manson and Evan in the evening, so it certainly was not May 28th that Manzin visited.
B). The fact that Manson was in an apartment with Evan indicates, as I speculated, that they did not stay in the trailer on set, as the producer of the show claimed.
C). Manson was drinking absinthe, not vodka as the producer of the show claimed.
D). Evan has repeatedly described being in a "very dark place" while filming Mildred Pierce. Early on she ascribed this to portraying a very dark character in the most challenging role in her career, and it affected her mentally. We are also informed that Manson and Evan broke up during the filming, which also put her in a difficult emotional place. Later, Evan will claim that it was exclusively because Manson was abusing her. Now we can add the fact that she was found to be pregnant with another man's child that she aborted while filming as additional reasons for her to be in a "very dark place".
E). All indications show that Manson was trying to make Evan feel comfortable (moving her to an air conditioned hotel room) and have some fun (doing cocaine with friends) during her difficult moment, and there is no anger or punishment displayed whatsoever.
F). In my article I show that it seems Manson and Evan broke off their engagement in June of 2010, or at least the process began. It was while she was filming on Long Island for Mildred Pierce. It has always been a mystery as to why they broke up. The fact that Evan cheated on Manson and had an abortion seems to be a primary reason, either indicating Evan no longer wanted to be with him, or that Manson didn't want to deal with the fact that Evan cheated on him and maybe had some resentment, or at least couldn't trust her.
G). Could this be the reason why Evan spoke so positively about Manson till her radicalization in 2016? Was it because she felt responsible for the breakup? Maybe she felt guilty she hurt him? Could it also be the reason Manson never spoke about Evan, and when he did in 2015 it was with regret and negativity?
H). In August of 2019 Evan sent the following tweet:
Does this reflect her "woke" attitude towards cheating post her radicalization, or did it always reflect her attitude? Was this tweet also directed towards Manson? Is this really why she came to view Manson as controlling, cause he wanted an exclusive monogamous relationship?
I). Evan since 2016 has expressed fear that Manson has allegedly threatened Evan to publicly expose her. Was it the fact that she cheated on him and had a secret abortion? Is this why she was so paranoid about Manson coming out against her? Is this why she waited so long to name Manson, so the statute of limitations would prevent her from bringing it to trial and risk all this being revealed? Is this why Evan constantly says absurd things to cover her ass from being exposed by such scandals? This falls into what I wrote in my article titled "Why Did Evan Rachel Wood Really Come Out as a Rape Victim and Name Marilyn Manson?".
2. I also wrote an article titled "Marilyn Manson's Relationship With Lindsay Usich While He Was Engaged to Evan Rachel Wood". In this article I showed how Manson spent time alone in his home in Los Angeles in April of 2010 with his current wife Lindsay Usich, which also falls into the time period of being engaged with Evan. We also know that Evan was working in Italy for Gucci during this month, and also Mildred Pierce started filming in New York the same month.
A). Did Manson cheat on Evan in a sexual way during this time with Lindsay? We don't know, but it is possible. She gives the encounter a romantic tone, indicating there was some romance.
B). Was Manson reacting to Evan's cheating on Manson? This is probable, since Evan would have had to have cheated on Manson in March at the latest to know she was pregnant to have the abortion in late May or early June.
C). It's interesting Lindsay came from New York to see Manson while Evan was possibly in New York herself.
D). That Evan cheated and had an abortion gives us a strong reason for the breakup in August of 2010, but it also gives us an explanation as to why Manson was seen on a date within two weeks with Lindsay, giving himself no grieving time. The relationship seemed to have really been over for months before.
3. In my article "The Real Reason Evan Rachel Wood Checked Herself In To A Mental Hospital", I discussed, among other things, the timeline as to when Evan could have attempted suicide and checked herself into a mental hospital. My conclusion was that if it did take place, it happened in August of 2010, which was just a few months after her abortion, and days after her breakup with Manson. This is because she says she was 22 when it happened.
A). If Evan really did try to commit suicide and checked herself into a mental hospital at this time, which she initially ascribed to dealing with her bisexuality and later to the abuse she suffered at the hands of Manson, could the fact that she cheated on Manson and had an abortion play a role as well?
B). When Evan supposedly checked herself into a mental hospital, Manson was out and about, seen in photos and video with Lindsay in his arms. Did this play a role? Was Evan throwing an inner tantrum and acting out because of this? Does this reflect the same tantrum-like attitude Evan has displayed since Manson got married to Lindsay in May 2020?
What Manzin Says About Lexa Vonn (Jane Doe #1)
At the 49 minute mark of the video, Manzin talks about his friend, that he refuses to name, but I have already named in a previous article as Lexa Vonn, who filed two times accusations against Manson, in 2017 and 2018, that were dismissed. In my article titled "The Sexual Assault Allegations Against Marilyn Manson and Twiggy Ramirez in 2017", I go into some details about her and the accusations. Manzin adds the following information to that case:
1. He reveals her craziness in the story where she takes Manson's revolver without his permission, which may or may not have been loaded, and placed it in her mouth simulating shooting herself, and Manzin having to carefully take it way from her. When they got ready to leave in the morning, Manson took Manzin aside and apologized and said he was always welcome to stay, but he didn't trust Lexa Vonn and didn't want her to stay any longer. Manson also warned Manzin that he needed to be careful with Lexa.
2. Manzin talks about how he talked to Lexa Vonn the day after her birthday in 2017, and she describes how she went over "daddy's house" (Manson's house) and he gave her a free stereo because hers was broken and he also gave her birthday spankings, and she had one of the best nights of her life. This was the night she would later use to accuse Manson of horrible things.
3. According to Manzin, Lexa Vonn was trying to form a cult of groupies with her as the leader, and one night during her "birthday week" she rented a room where Jim Morrison stayed and said she would try to conjure his spirit in a seance, and if she was not able to then she would try and conjure Marilyn Manson. Meanwhile she had coordinated for Manson to show up, and as she was trying to conjure him, he knocks on the door, to the amazement of Lexa's cult of groupies, who believed she really conjured him. Then Manson brought the party to his house, and they all had a good time.
4. Manzin confirms Lexa Vonn did not date Manson, nor were they ever close friends, but they had an acquaintance that went back many years.
5. Manson warned a mutual friend of Manzin, named Tanya, in 2011 or 2012 that Lexa Vonn, who Tanya was friends with and whose name came up, was not mentally well. Manson showed Tanya emails from Lexa Vonn telling him that he is Jesus Christ and she is his Mary Magdalene, and she was meant to serve and help him in this life to rebuild the world. This aligns with the other crazy things she says in my article. Manson warned Tanya to be careful with her.
6. When Lexa came up with her allegations against Manson, Manzin confirms that he and everyone else in her circle knew she was lying, and through text messages and other information they could place her and show how she was lying. This is probably why she kept changing the date of her encounter with Manson. They turned over all this evidence to Manson, who gave it the authorities, and the case was dismissed.
Hugh Warner, Manson's Father, Felt Evan Rachel Wood Was a Manipulator
At the 1 hour and 13 minute mark, Manzin mentions a friend he has in Canton, Ohio who spent some time with Manson's parents, Hugh and Barbara. When Manson started dating Evan, Hugh told Manzin's friend that he didn't know if he liked her, and he felt that she was really manipulative. He said, "He's got Brian wrapped around her finger", she was working on him somehow, and he wasn't acting like himself.
1. In many places I have talked about how Evan is indeed manipulative, and this manipulation can be demonstrated in the way she writes, talks and presents herself. This is most notable in the following series and subsequent articles after: Evan Rachel Wood as a Manipulator (Part 1 of 4).
I). Evan since 2016 has expressed fear that Manson has allegedly threatened Evan to publicly expose her. Was it the fact that she cheated on him and had a secret abortion? Is this why she was so paranoid about Manson coming out against her? Is this why she waited so long to name Manson, so the statute of limitations would prevent her from bringing it to trial and risk all this being revealed? Is this why Evan constantly says absurd things to cover her ass from being exposed by such scandals? This falls into what I wrote in my article titled "Why Did Evan Rachel Wood Really Come Out as a Rape Victim and Name Marilyn Manson?".
2. I also wrote an article titled "Marilyn Manson's Relationship With Lindsay Usich While He Was Engaged to Evan Rachel Wood". In this article I showed how Manson spent time alone in his home in Los Angeles in April of 2010 with his current wife Lindsay Usich, which also falls into the time period of being engaged with Evan. We also know that Evan was working in Italy for Gucci during this month, and also Mildred Pierce started filming in New York the same month.
A). Did Manson cheat on Evan in a sexual way during this time with Lindsay? We don't know, but it is possible. She gives the encounter a romantic tone, indicating there was some romance.
B). Was Manson reacting to Evan's cheating on Manson? This is probable, since Evan would have had to have cheated on Manson in March at the latest to know she was pregnant to have the abortion in late May or early June.
C). It's interesting Lindsay came from New York to see Manson while Evan was possibly in New York herself.
D). That Evan cheated and had an abortion gives us a strong reason for the breakup in August of 2010, but it also gives us an explanation as to why Manson was seen on a date within two weeks with Lindsay, giving himself no grieving time. The relationship seemed to have really been over for months before.
3. In my article "The Real Reason Evan Rachel Wood Checked Herself In To A Mental Hospital", I discussed, among other things, the timeline as to when Evan could have attempted suicide and checked herself into a mental hospital. My conclusion was that if it did take place, it happened in August of 2010, which was just a few months after her abortion, and days after her breakup with Manson. This is because she says she was 22 when it happened.
A). If Evan really did try to commit suicide and checked herself into a mental hospital at this time, which she initially ascribed to dealing with her bisexuality and later to the abuse she suffered at the hands of Manson, could the fact that she cheated on Manson and had an abortion play a role as well?
B). When Evan supposedly checked herself into a mental hospital, Manson was out and about, seen in photos and video with Lindsay in his arms. Did this play a role? Was Evan throwing an inner tantrum and acting out because of this? Does this reflect the same tantrum-like attitude Evan has displayed since Manson got married to Lindsay in May 2020?
What Manzin Says About Lexa Vonn (Jane Doe #1)
At the 49 minute mark of the video, Manzin talks about his friend, that he refuses to name, but I have already named in a previous article as Lexa Vonn, who filed two times accusations against Manson, in 2017 and 2018, that were dismissed. In my article titled "The Sexual Assault Allegations Against Marilyn Manson and Twiggy Ramirez in 2017", I go into some details about her and the accusations. Manzin adds the following information to that case:
1. He reveals her craziness in the story where she takes Manson's revolver without his permission, which may or may not have been loaded, and placed it in her mouth simulating shooting herself, and Manzin having to carefully take it way from her. When they got ready to leave in the morning, Manson took Manzin aside and apologized and said he was always welcome to stay, but he didn't trust Lexa Vonn and didn't want her to stay any longer. Manson also warned Manzin that he needed to be careful with Lexa.
2. Manzin talks about how he talked to Lexa Vonn the day after her birthday in 2017, and she describes how she went over "daddy's house" (Manson's house) and he gave her a free stereo because hers was broken and he also gave her birthday spankings, and she had one of the best nights of her life. This was the night she would later use to accuse Manson of horrible things.
3. According to Manzin, Lexa Vonn was trying to form a cult of groupies with her as the leader, and one night during her "birthday week" she rented a room where Jim Morrison stayed and said she would try to conjure his spirit in a seance, and if she was not able to then she would try and conjure Marilyn Manson. Meanwhile she had coordinated for Manson to show up, and as she was trying to conjure him, he knocks on the door, to the amazement of Lexa's cult of groupies, who believed she really conjured him. Then Manson brought the party to his house, and they all had a good time.
4. Manzin confirms Lexa Vonn did not date Manson, nor were they ever close friends, but they had an acquaintance that went back many years.
5. Manson warned a mutual friend of Manzin, named Tanya, in 2011 or 2012 that Lexa Vonn, who Tanya was friends with and whose name came up, was not mentally well. Manson showed Tanya emails from Lexa Vonn telling him that he is Jesus Christ and she is his Mary Magdalene, and she was meant to serve and help him in this life to rebuild the world. This aligns with the other crazy things she says in my article. Manson warned Tanya to be careful with her.
6. When Lexa came up with her allegations against Manson, Manzin confirms that he and everyone else in her circle knew she was lying, and through text messages and other information they could place her and show how she was lying. This is probably why she kept changing the date of her encounter with Manson. They turned over all this evidence to Manson, who gave it the authorities, and the case was dismissed.
Hugh Warner, Manson's Father, Felt Evan Rachel Wood Was a Manipulator
At the 1 hour and 13 minute mark, Manzin mentions a friend he has in Canton, Ohio who spent some time with Manson's parents, Hugh and Barbara. When Manson started dating Evan, Hugh told Manzin's friend that he didn't know if he liked her, and he felt that she was really manipulative. He said, "He's got Brian wrapped around her finger", she was working on him somehow, and he wasn't acting like himself.
1. In many places I have talked about how Evan is indeed manipulative, and this manipulation can be demonstrated in the way she writes, talks and presents herself. This is most notable in the following series and subsequent articles after: Evan Rachel Wood as a Manipulator (Part 1 of 4).
See the interview with Manzin below:
An update to the interview above was done before the release of Phoenix Rising: