The Sexual Assault Allegations Against Marilyn Manson and Twiggy Ramirez in 2017


In 2017, Marilyn Manson was perhaps more visible than ever, in art, music, film, television and fashion. He also embarked on a tour in support of his acclaimed album Heaven Upside Down, which in October landed him temporarily in a wheelchair due to an accident when a stage prop fell on his leg. Setting aside the accident and other difficult situations that took place in October, the show went on, and everything seemed to be on the right track when it came to Marilyn Manson's career.


Evan Rachel Wood

Despite Evan Rachel Wood's revelation a year prior that she had been both abused and sexually assaulted by a former partner of hers, at this point she had not named her alleged abuser and rapist. Some speculated it to be Marilyn Manson at this point, but judgments were almost universally reserved. One person at this time that certainly knew who she was referring to was Marilyn Manson himself. From the time of their breakup in August of 2010, Manson hardly ever talked about Evan, and the few times he did it wasn't a rosy picture he painted of his relationship with her, like she did throughout this time period until the first half of 2016. To juxtapose Evan's positive words on their relationship, Manson in 2015 was saying things like, "I don't trust girls who have three names", and referred to Evan specifically as someone who was "broken" and "damaged". Referring to Evan directly during his speech in Cannes in 2015, apart from saying “Mistake!”, he added: "Anybody with three names I don’t trust. Don’t ever trust a girl with three names, she will be combing your eyelashes while you are sleeping and stab you.” Before 2015, it doesn't seem he ever talked about Evan, so it makes us wonder why he was all of a sudden talking about her in this way in 2015; it was as if something happened or was happening that he saw which no one else was really noticing.


In September of 2017, Manson did a "Show and Tell" segment for NME, where they would show him random pictures and he would say something about what was depicted. In the segment, when he was shown a photo of the Chateau Marmont, a favorite hangout of Manson in which he has a long history, which includes him meeting Evan for the first time at a party there in 2006, he pointed to a section of the building and said: "Over here is where I met a girl that has three names like Lee Harvey Oswald, Evan Rachel Wood, which I don't ... I'm not happy about that part." Thus, at least from 2015 onward, Manson looked upon his relationship with Evan with a certain regret that he ever got involved with her, maybe even resentment, but this would be the last time till this day that Marilyn Manson ever publicly spoke about her.
 

Placebo’s Brian Molko

In October of 2017, the now long time sober Placebo frontman Brian Molko, and meditation practicioner, talked about his past with Marilyn Manson, which was in the late 1990's, at the height of Manson's fame in the Antichrist Superstar era, that many view as Manson's most debauched era. This is what he had to say:

"I remember reading ‘The Long Road Out Of Hell’ [Marilyn Manson’s autobiography], and thinking ‘this book makes you feel like you want to go out and do very rock n’ roll things’, but that wasn’t a particular inspiration for my lifestyle. Marilyn Manson and I started out hanging out at that time, and we were very badly behaved anyway. I never saw him engaged in any depraved behaviour. Nothing I would consider depraved. And the thing about Manson is that he’s fiercely intelligent and a fantastic provocateur. I think that’s why we got on so well. And I have to say this – and he won’t like it – but I could always drink him under the table."

In summary, according to Molko, Manson may have been badly behaved, but he was not depraved. He also puts his persona within the context of someone who is "fiercely intelligent and a fantastic provocateur". This says a lot coming from a man who at the time of the interview seemed to be a very different person from those days he partied with Manson.


Dave Grohl

In light of the above comments from Brian Molko, I want to move ahead a year for a moment to October of 2018, when The Foo Fighters frontman and Nirvana drummer Dave Grohl, a friend of Manson, was speaking to Alt 98.7, where he put Manson in his proper role within the history of rock music, which I think is well to consider at this point:

"In the 80’s you had all these rock bands that got huge. There was so much glamour, all the dudes had crazy hair, limos, they were shooting their videos at Crazy Girls, riding Harleys…it kind of went its course or whatever. Then there were a lot of bands that loved playing rock music, but didn’t have anything to do with that. It was more about 'we’re just dirty kids who play in garages and write these songs.' That was sort of born out of the punk rock thing. Then all of a sudden that becomes huge, and that becomes huge for a while, and after that you are sort of like 'damn man, I sort of want a rock star.' Then Marilyn Manson gets big, and you’re like 'oh cool, now you’ve got something that is really fantastic to look at, it’s really moving, and really powerful.' The imagery and the music too, you are like, 'wow that’s cool man!' Then the hip hop scene sort of took over all of the glamour that the rock and roll thing sort of had in the 80’s. It’s kind of cyclical in this weird way, eventually you’ll get to a place where you’ll have a hip hop artist who doesn’t go that route, or a rock band that does go the glam route. Things kind of roll in this cycle.”

Manson's goal from the beginning was to be a rock star, and only a "fiercely intelligent and a fantastic provocateur" could do it as single-handedly as he did in the 90's music environment which seemed so opposed to it. He even wrote an autobiography and made Antichrist Superstar in which he depicted himself as a rock star who was "bigger than Satan", which was far from the truth at that point, but by doing this he brilliantly created his own legend, and in return became a legend (this was similarly done by Aleister Crowley, an influence on Manson, when he wrote his "autohagiography").



Scott Putesky (Daisy Berkowitz)

Scott Putesky, one of the founding members of Marilyn Manson and popularly known as Daisy Berkowitz, died on October 22, 2017 from colon cancer. His last tweet on October 16th was a retweet from Jack Off Jill, which read:

"Sending love & hope to the brave men & women that have shared their pain with #MeToo 😪 Time for a change in how we deal with #sexualassult."

On October 9th he tweeted:

"Name your abuser."

In the comments section of that October 9th tweet someone asked him: "Are ya on Mansons side?" He replied: "No, I'm ahead of him. As always."

On October 3rd he tweeted:

"I've never been shot but I did get a gun pointed at me. By none other than Marilyn Manson. His latest injury; Karma, dude, KARMA."

On October 2nd, Jack Off Jill tweeted to Scott:

"@StratOfSphere did manson ever donate to your Go fund me or did he just tweet cancer joke via his ex gf's twittwr account."

Scott replied:

"No donation, no promotion, no concern for my status ... Nothing to help, nothing humane ..."

Jack Off Jill retweeted this response, with the headline:

"The truth!"

What should we make of this? It is clear that Scott, till his dying day, had resentment against Marilyn Manson, even though they had settled a lawsuit Scott brought against Manson some years earlier asking for $15million. It seems that one of the instigators of this resentment was Jessicka Addams from Jack Off Jill, who was long considered a friend of both Scott and Manson till Scott was diagnosed with cancer and she stuck by him and probably became infected with his rants. Maybe it was the other way around and he instigated her. As you can see from the tweets, Scott on his deathbed is making accusations against Manson, and Jessicka is encouraging it and making accusations of her own. Despite what Scott would say at this time, Manson didn't publicly get involved, if he even knew about it, but on the day Scott passed, October 22, Manson sent this tweet as a touching tribute:

"Scott Putesky and I made great music together. We had our differences over the years, but I will always remember the good times more. Everyone should listen to 'Man That You Fear' in his honor. That was our favorite."


Jeordie White (Twiggy Ramirez)

Four days after Scott Putesky retweeted Jack Off Jill's post encouraging women to name their abuser, and two days before he died, Jessicka Addams named her alleged abuser. On October 20, 2017, Addams wrote a Facebook post accusing her ex-boyfriend Twiggy Ramirez, bassist of Marilyn Manson, of raping her while they were a couple in their five year relationship, from 1992 to 1997; she also accused him of subjecting her to domestic violence and emotional abuse.

During a tour break with Nine Inch Nails, who White also played with, the musician allegedly visited Addams at their friend Pete’s apartment. “He forced me on to the floor with his hand around my neck,” she wrote. “I said NO. I said NO. I said it so loud enough, that Pete came rushing in from the other room to get him off of me. But I had been raped. I had been raped by somebody I thought I loved.” (It should be noted, Jessicka has removed this post from her Facebook account.)

Addams attributed her delay in coming forward with the accusation to warnings from her label that if she went public, her band could likely get black balled by “concert promoters, radio programmers, and other bands and their managers.” “The label blatantly feared the big machine behind Marilyn Manson would use their power to destroy not only Jack Off Jill, but my name, Jessicka, as well,” she wrote. “The pressure and guilt of the inevitable repercussions of my rape story affecting my band’s livelihood, happiness and success kept me silent for years.

A 2015 interview she gave Alternative Press obliquely hinted at the abusive relationship she had with White, even though there she calls it a psychical abuse and rape, and not a physical one as she did in her 2017 statement.  


Manson released a statement on this through Pitchfork the same day: "I knew Jessicka and Jeordie had a romantic relationship many years ago and I considered and still consider Jessicka to be a friend. I knew nothing about these allegations until very recently and am saddened by Jessicka’s obvious distress."  

On October 24th, Manson tweeted: "I have decided to part ways with Jeordie White as a member of Marilyn Manson. He will be replaced for the upcoming tour. I wish him well." On Instagram, Manson added, “This is a sad day.”

The next day Jeordie White issued his statement: “I have only recently been made aware of these allegations from over 20 years ago. I do not condone non-consensual sex of any kind. I will be taking some time to spend with my family and focus on maintaining my several years of sobriety. If I have caused anyone pain I apologize and truly regret it.”

Having come up in the Florida scene with Marilyn Manson and his bandmates, Jack Off Jill opened for his band both before and after the time during which Addams says her assault occurred. She claims that she wanted to come out with her abuse in 1998, but her label discouraged her from doing so, saying it would destroy her career. Instead of allowing her career to potentially be destroyed (?), she let her alleged abuser and rapist go free to potentially abuse and rape others. Conveniently, as her resentment against Manson increased "secretly" on Twitter in a mutual manner with Scott Putesky, and with the Me Too Movement on the rise, Jessicka decided to come out against Jeordie, even though for a month before she was throwing shade at Manson online. At this time, Jessicka did not address anything that had to do with Manson, and to him and the general public in seemed they were still friends. Her hostility with Manson reached its zenith in February of 2021.

Why did Manson fire Jeordie? Does Manson think he is guilty? Was Manson scared of something Jessicka might have on him? Was Manson just giving in to pressure from management? Personally, I don't want to speculate on this, because all I can do is speculate. If I were to give my opinion, however, I think if Twiggy stayed with band the public accusation and scrutiny would have done unnecessary damage to Marilyn Manson the band, maybe prompted Evan to name Manson afterwards, and it may have triggered Twiggy who was sober for years at that point to fall back into his addictions. He was also divorced around this time from his wife Laney Chantal, which may have contributed to the mutual decision. But probably the best and most accurate reason was given by Manson himself in January of 2008 in an interview with Kerrang:

"I did not divorce Twiggy as a friend or brother because I still care about him greatly. But I can’t say that my musical relationship with Twiggy has been good for several years. My relationship with producer Tyler Bates on The Pale Emperor made something open up in me and I didn’t want to let negative energy back in my life. There were other people in my life that I thought were friends that I had to cut out this year, and I had to clean house and adopt a new attitude. People mistook my kindness and generosity for weakness. So I kinda adapted this attitude, like, ‘If you fuck with me, there will be consequences.’ I have issues with intimacy. That might sound weird given that we’re lying in bed together, but y’know…"

As for Manson and Jeordie, it appears their friendship splintered off for a bit, and they didn't reacquaint until either late 2019 or early 2020, when he and author Tim O'Neill were invited by Marilyn Manson to his house so they could discuss Tim's research on Charles Manson.

For an alternative perspective to the Jeordie White case, see https://www.justicefortwiggyramirez.com/.

An ex-girlfriend of Marilyn Manson from the Spooky Kids days, Lisa LeSeur, also spoke about Twiggy and Jessicka in her interview with Colonel Kurtz (see here). 


Lexa Vonn (Jane Doe #1)

On the 31st of October in 2017, Lexa Vonn (former singer for Ophelia Rising, a journalist and fashion designer) filed a report on Marilyn Manson for sexual battery with the Los Angeles County West Hollywood Sheriff's Department for a series of incidents that took place on October 25, 2011. Vonn, whose real name is Yvonne Nicoletti, had been known to hang around Marilyn Manson's circle since 1995, when she was 18. The incident is said to have taken place in Manson's apartment above the liquor store on Sunset Blvd. in West Hollywood. She claims Manson held her at knife-point, cut her in a ritualistic fashion, and used various other objects to inflict injury on her without consent. She writes:

"I have been ill with denial, shame, heartbreak and emotional distress, as well as the fear of being ostracized for being victimized in such a bizarre and disgusting manner. Coming to terms with the attack has taken me years of treatment, sobriety, celibacy, solitude and social pressure brought on by the by the recent rape and abuse allegations made by Jack Off Jill singer Jessicka Addams against her own ex-boyfriend from Marilyn Manson, bass player Twiggy Ramirez (real name Jeordie White), as well as the rape and abuse allegations made by another ex-girlfriend of Manson, actress Evan Rachel Wood involving a so far unnamed 'ex-boyfriend'."

Vonn claimed her relationship with Manson lasted until 2014, at which time she publicly vocalized her separation. As of the report, Vonn practiced a sober and celibate lifestyle since her relationship with Manson and was undergoing treatment with assigned prescription drugs for a multitude of symptoms due to prolonged and aggravated PTSD. The police began an investigation following this report. Nothing came of this investigation, the Me Too Movement was silent, and apparently the only one that stood by her at the time was Corey Feldman.


In May of 2018, Lexa Vonn filed another report against Manson, this time leaving her name out of the case and referring to herself as "Jane Doe". The Los Angeles County District Attorney’s Office investigated the matter, and in August that year the D.A. declined to move forward due to the statute of limitations having expired and “an absence of corroboration”.

In a statement given to The Hollywood Reporter, Manson’s attorney Howard E. King, Esq. said:

“Under current policy, the Los Angeles County District Attorney must investigate any claim of sexual abuse, no matter how outlandish. It is not surprising that the District Attorney, after investigation, summarily rejected the claims made in a police report filed by a former acquaintance against Brian Warner p/k/a Marilyn Manson. The allegations made to the police were and are categorically denied by Mr. Warner and are either completely delusional or part of a calculated attempt to generate publicity for the claimant’s business of selling Manson memorabilia. The police report that spurred the investigation was accompanied by the woman’s press release and other attempts to generate publicity that fraudulently claimed she was held captive by Mr. Warner for 48 hours in 2011. Any claim of sexual impropriety or imprisonment at that, or any other time, is false.”




The following facts should also be noted:

1. Originally Lexa Vonn claimed she was sexually abused by Manson on October 20-21, then she changed it to the 24th, and then changed it again to October 25th. This seems to be due to the fact that her story contradicted other events that took place at that time, such as, for example, the highly publicized "date" Manson was seen to be on at Vento Di Mercato in West Hollywood on October 24th (see 3 consecutive photos above). Manson left alone that night, so it's not known if it was actually a date he was on.

2. It can be confirmed that Manson was dating and traveling around with Lindsay Usich, his current wife, based on photographic evidence we have of them together from October 29th to November 10th of 2011. She didn't officially become Manson's girlfriend until 2012.

3. Lexa Vonn never dated Manson. Most of the time she claims to have dated Manson was the same time he was really dating Lindsay Usich. She was more of a groupie and fellow musician who hung around the band since the Spooky Kids days in Florida. She had a very large collection of very rare Manson merch starting from the early Spooky Kids days, and was selling it out slowly through the years, and she always seemed obsessed about Manson until the accusation, which is why nobody believed her, including people in Me Too.

4. Someone online said the following about Lexa Vonn in February of 2021: "I was part of that group of hers in 2008-2014. Can confirm Lexa/Yvonne was full of shit. She said he talked to her thru billboards and street signs. She needs help."

5. To this day she sells Manson related things online, such as this tank-top for $666.  
 
6. In her 2018 case file, Lexa Vonn submitted her own press release that she wrote (notice the update on the bottom when the date was fixed to October 25th):
 
 
7. After Manson was accused in February of 2021, Lexa began posting on Instagram the same type of educational materials about abuse victims and abusers from a psychological perspective as the other accusers do till this day, and tried to remind people that she also came out against Manson in 2017, but no one except Corey Feldman paid any attention to her.
 

8. It appears Jessicka Addams didn't support her allegations either, sparking a social media feud. She said Lexa needed a good therapist, and "she only pollutes the waters for real survivors."


Marilyn Manson Comments on the Me Too Movement

In a December 15th interview that year, Manson was asked by Channel 4 News about whether he was surprised to hear that his ex-fiance Rose McGowan was one of the people who had spoken out against Weinstein. He responded:

"I'm not surprised by it. I didn’t really know much about it when I was with her. I just think, I don’t want it to turn the whole world’s attention from the artistic element of Hollywood, and movies and films to be ruined by this.

There’s serious allegations, and they’re always allegations of course, but when someone starts complaining about something that happened that seems a little bit not as serious as real sexual assault, I think that’s insulting to people that have been sexually assaulted. It pisses me off that when someone says, ‘Someone gave me an inappropriate gift’ or something. That’s not the same as being harmed.

I’m a very vengeful person, I’m very protective of loved ones, especially in relationships, but I never really… that wasn’t part of our relationship in the past.

I just don’t want to see it turn Hollywood into something that takes away from films being made. That’s not to disrespect the people making the allegations. If you have something to say you should say it to the police and not to the press and handle it that way first and foremost, and that’s what I would do.

The things that happened to me when I was a kid isn't something that I'm gonna talk about or complain about. I mean, I'm guilty as charged when it comes to writing a book and talking about my childhood, but I'm not trying to make it into a crazed thing, to where I can't turn on my phone without someone every day being accused of something. Maybe it's about 'all men are bad', or 'all men can't do anything unless it's inappropriate'.

It makes you feel like you can’t even say… go and meet her [points to someone off camera] and say, I might look at her the wrong way and be accused of something wrong. I think the world needs to balance itself out with what’s the proper way of dealing with this type of situation. You’re speaking about my ex-fiancée – I don’t disagree with how she’s handling it. I just disagree with the entire snowball effect that’s happened that could ruin a lot of people’s lives that don’t need to be ruined."

You can hear it from Manson himself at the 31 minute mark in the video here.



 

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