The Finnish publications Seiska and Findance published some new photos of Marilyn Manson, who was spotted with former Rob Zombie bassist Piggy D in the Studio City neighborhood of Los Angeles after going to Mexicali restaurant. These photos were taken on Wednesday, April 24th 2024.
Ten Thoughts After Studying the Documents of Marilyn Manson's Lawsuit Against Evan Rachel Wood and Illma Gore
On March 2, 2022 Marilyn Manson (Brian Warner) issued a civil lawsuit against Evan Rachel Wood and Illma (Ashley) Gore. He is demanding a Jury Trial.
Marilyn Manson has released the full 28-page complaint documents on his social media pages, and after taking a few days to study the documents, below are a few of my personal thoughts. There is nothing too substantial here, because everybody needs to read these documents, as they are a game changer. You can access the documents here.
1. I have read through the documents a number of times, examined them with a fine toothed combed, analyzed them for any holes or contradictions or misleading statements, evaluated them for their strengths and weaknesses. This is my conclusion: this lawsuit passes every test with flying colors. We have here a very strong case in Manson's favor, in fact it is so strong that I have yet to hear anyone in the media really acknowledge it for what it is. If you put these documents up against any of the other documents issued by Manson's accusers, you will notice that they are like comparing night and day, fresh water and dirt. When I read the complaints of Ashley Walters, for example, one contradiction and misleading statement after another immediately shines through, and every paragraph has one hole after another, to the point where you can be the worst lawyer in the world, and you would be able to tear the arguments apart. Not so with Manson's lawyers. They have dotted every "i" and crossed every "t".
2. The big difference between Manson's lawsuit and the lawsuits of the accusers is threefold: first, Manson has context, the accusers don't or at least have very little; second, Manson shows a respect for substantiation, as evidenced, for example, with his multiple footnotes, while the accusers show a severe lack of respect for substantiation, instead veering much too often towards frivolousness; and third, Manson provides evidence for his arguments, and very strong evidence at that, while the accusers not only lack evidence, but whatever they claim to have they twist and manipulate in order to fit their narrative.
3. I believe the reason Manson's complaint is so strong is threefold: first, to make sure his case is so tight that it passes through all the hurdles in order to help the sheriff's office provide enough evidence for the district attorney of California to pass this case through for either a civil or criminal trial; second, to put the fear of God into his accusers, especially the main conspirators Evan Rachel Wood and Illma Gore; and third, to get the media (and the general public opinion) to rethink how they have evaluated the case against Marilyn Manson and to bring back a respect for American justice, which does not judge anybody guilty until they have had the opportunity to have their voice heard.
4. The brilliance of the complaints Marilyn Manson brings forth lies in the fact that he (and his lawyers) have not fallen into Evan Rachel Wood's and Illma Gore's traps, through their allegations and accusations, where it becomes a "he said she said". In fact, they have pretty much avoided it altogether. If anyone reads what I have written in Marilyn Manson Uncanceled, they know I have focused a lot on the fact that Evan Rachel Wood is a manipulator, and no matter how much you try to uncover the truth from a manipulation hack job by a manipulator, there is still a chance the truth will not be accepted, especially by a jury. Judges and juries can be just as manipulated as anyone else. What Manson and his lawyers have done instead is what I have tried to do: provide full background and context based on the evidence and documentation. On top of this, they have wisely focused on what led Evan and Illma to make these accusations, in other words, the motives, and by doing this they are demolishing the structure from the very foundation.
5. The lawsuit gives as a primary motive for Evan Rachel Wood what I have also found to be true and have mentioned in the past, stating that it is about "absolving her reputation for having a 'wild past' and her embarrassment for having been in a long-term relationship with Marilyn Manson." This is exactly right, as far as naming Manson is concerned, though the lawsuit doesn't get into her other motives, which are more political and her activism. The primary motive for Illma Gore is stated when they call her a "grifter", and provide evidence that money and status is a major motivator.
6. The Introduction is short and to the point and very well done. My only complaint is they use the generic timeline of "ten years" a little too much, since it is not technically "ten years" in some cases.
7. The release of the HBO documentary has already proven to be damning for Evan and Illma. One of the strongest points made in the documents is that Manson provides proof that Illma had his home swatted soon after Evan and other accusers named Manson in early February 2021. The evidence suggests that Illma did this on behalf of getting footage for the documentary in order to show Manson being in a fragile and guilty state with his home surrounded by law enforcement, which can be manipulated in a number of ways. Since the two-part documentary is set to premier on March 15th and 16th, if Manson's lawyers can just show HBO Illma's motivations and illegal activities in getting such footage for the documentary, then there can be little doubt HBO will yank it from being aired, even though HBO has a terrible record of taking the wrong side in controversial documentaries.
8. We must not allow ourselves to be misled into thinking that Manson and his team have provided the full extent of the evidence against Evan and Illma. Personally, I think this is just the tip of the iceberg, with enough provided for the reasons I have already stated above.
9. Some have wondered how Manson and his team have come across these documents. I don't want to spill any possible secrets, but I have come up with at least five very legal ways Manson could have gotten a hold of these documents and evidence. One very obvious source that I will mention seems to be the legal team of Jaime Bell and perhaps Jaime Bell himself. Some of Evan's forgeries come from that case.
10. It is very smart to utilize Pola Weiss and Greta Aurora in the case. Both of them have been cited in the lawsuits of Ashley Walters and Jane Doe #2, with severely outdated and disproven allegations, and Illma's use of these examples which have led to defamation are very easy to disprove in a court of law, but not just through documents, instead they can be brought forward as witnesses and make a powerful statement against the ways the accusers have manipulated and misled.
Concluding Remarks:
I really don't see a way out of this for Evan Rachel Wood and Illma Gore. Whatever they had going for them is over, in my opinion. Yes, this is only the beginning, but I truly believe it is only the beginning of the good news for Manson and the bad news for all the accusers. The other accusers not named in Manson's lawsuit better abandon ship as fast as they can, because they are in for some rough seas if they decide to continue. And no matter what happens, even if Manson's case is tossed for whatever reason, we now have Manson's side of the story on record, and his side is already a lot stronger than the story of the accusers. One can only imagine what Manson's legal team has in store for the future not only with this case, but with the other four cases against him, if they even make it to trial.
Marilyn Manson has released the full 28-page complaint documents on his social media pages, and after taking a few days to study the documents, below are a few of my personal thoughts. There is nothing too substantial here, because everybody needs to read these documents, as they are a game changer. You can access the documents here.
1. I have read through the documents a number of times, examined them with a fine toothed combed, analyzed them for any holes or contradictions or misleading statements, evaluated them for their strengths and weaknesses. This is my conclusion: this lawsuit passes every test with flying colors. We have here a very strong case in Manson's favor, in fact it is so strong that I have yet to hear anyone in the media really acknowledge it for what it is. If you put these documents up against any of the other documents issued by Manson's accusers, you will notice that they are like comparing night and day, fresh water and dirt. When I read the complaints of Ashley Walters, for example, one contradiction and misleading statement after another immediately shines through, and every paragraph has one hole after another, to the point where you can be the worst lawyer in the world, and you would be able to tear the arguments apart. Not so with Manson's lawyers. They have dotted every "i" and crossed every "t".
2. The big difference between Manson's lawsuit and the lawsuits of the accusers is threefold: first, Manson has context, the accusers don't or at least have very little; second, Manson shows a respect for substantiation, as evidenced, for example, with his multiple footnotes, while the accusers show a severe lack of respect for substantiation, instead veering much too often towards frivolousness; and third, Manson provides evidence for his arguments, and very strong evidence at that, while the accusers not only lack evidence, but whatever they claim to have they twist and manipulate in order to fit their narrative.
3. I believe the reason Manson's complaint is so strong is threefold: first, to make sure his case is so tight that it passes through all the hurdles in order to help the sheriff's office provide enough evidence for the district attorney of California to pass this case through for either a civil or criminal trial; second, to put the fear of God into his accusers, especially the main conspirators Evan Rachel Wood and Illma Gore; and third, to get the media (and the general public opinion) to rethink how they have evaluated the case against Marilyn Manson and to bring back a respect for American justice, which does not judge anybody guilty until they have had the opportunity to have their voice heard.
4. The brilliance of the complaints Marilyn Manson brings forth lies in the fact that he (and his lawyers) have not fallen into Evan Rachel Wood's and Illma Gore's traps, through their allegations and accusations, where it becomes a "he said she said". In fact, they have pretty much avoided it altogether. If anyone reads what I have written in Marilyn Manson Uncanceled, they know I have focused a lot on the fact that Evan Rachel Wood is a manipulator, and no matter how much you try to uncover the truth from a manipulation hack job by a manipulator, there is still a chance the truth will not be accepted, especially by a jury. Judges and juries can be just as manipulated as anyone else. What Manson and his lawyers have done instead is what I have tried to do: provide full background and context based on the evidence and documentation. On top of this, they have wisely focused on what led Evan and Illma to make these accusations, in other words, the motives, and by doing this they are demolishing the structure from the very foundation.
5. The lawsuit gives as a primary motive for Evan Rachel Wood what I have also found to be true and have mentioned in the past, stating that it is about "absolving her reputation for having a 'wild past' and her embarrassment for having been in a long-term relationship with Marilyn Manson." This is exactly right, as far as naming Manson is concerned, though the lawsuit doesn't get into her other motives, which are more political and her activism. The primary motive for Illma Gore is stated when they call her a "grifter", and provide evidence that money and status is a major motivator.
6. The Introduction is short and to the point and very well done. My only complaint is they use the generic timeline of "ten years" a little too much, since it is not technically "ten years" in some cases.
7. The release of the HBO documentary has already proven to be damning for Evan and Illma. One of the strongest points made in the documents is that Manson provides proof that Illma had his home swatted soon after Evan and other accusers named Manson in early February 2021. The evidence suggests that Illma did this on behalf of getting footage for the documentary in order to show Manson being in a fragile and guilty state with his home surrounded by law enforcement, which can be manipulated in a number of ways. Since the two-part documentary is set to premier on March 15th and 16th, if Manson's lawyers can just show HBO Illma's motivations and illegal activities in getting such footage for the documentary, then there can be little doubt HBO will yank it from being aired, even though HBO has a terrible record of taking the wrong side in controversial documentaries.
8. We must not allow ourselves to be misled into thinking that Manson and his team have provided the full extent of the evidence against Evan and Illma. Personally, I think this is just the tip of the iceberg, with enough provided for the reasons I have already stated above.
9. Some have wondered how Manson and his team have come across these documents. I don't want to spill any possible secrets, but I have come up with at least five very legal ways Manson could have gotten a hold of these documents and evidence. One very obvious source that I will mention seems to be the legal team of Jaime Bell and perhaps Jaime Bell himself. Some of Evan's forgeries come from that case.
10. It is very smart to utilize Pola Weiss and Greta Aurora in the case. Both of them have been cited in the lawsuits of Ashley Walters and Jane Doe #2, with severely outdated and disproven allegations, and Illma's use of these examples which have led to defamation are very easy to disprove in a court of law, but not just through documents, instead they can be brought forward as witnesses and make a powerful statement against the ways the accusers have manipulated and misled.
Concluding Remarks:
I really don't see a way out of this for Evan Rachel Wood and Illma Gore. Whatever they had going for them is over, in my opinion. Yes, this is only the beginning, but I truly believe it is only the beginning of the good news for Manson and the bad news for all the accusers. The other accusers not named in Manson's lawsuit better abandon ship as fast as they can, because they are in for some rough seas if they decide to continue. And no matter what happens, even if Manson's case is tossed for whatever reason, we now have Manson's side of the story on record, and his side is already a lot stronger than the story of the accusers. One can only imagine what Manson's legal team has in store for the future not only with this case, but with the other four cases against him, if they even make it to trial.